{"id":1295,"date":"2026-01-22T14:50:04","date_gmt":"2026-01-22T18:50:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/wp268347.wpdns.ca\/?page_id=1295"},"modified":"2026-01-22T14:52:42","modified_gmt":"2026-01-22T18:52:42","slug":"jehan-lemessier-3","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/famillemessierfamily.org\/en\/jehan-lemessier-3","title":{"rendered":"Jehan LeMessier 3"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Jehan LeMessier III\n<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t
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Sixth generation known:<\/b><\/span><\/p>

If the age mentioned on the death of Jehan LeMessier\u2019s right, David\u2019s father was born about 15 years after the marriage of his parents. He was born around 1582, in the hamlet of Remondi\u00e8re in St-Denis-le-Thiboult. Aged about seven years, Jehan became fatherless. The archives have made \u200b\u200bno connection between him and his parents. What is called \u00ab circumstantial evidence \u00bb in the judicial language, introduced me to Jehan as son of Jehan and Cardine Acoulons.<\/p>

In 1603, Jehan buy a house. His purchase is motivated by a marriage that he must contract in the coming months. As too often in LeMessier, the name of his wife is unknown.<\/p>

The house is in Vascoeuil, a place now called \u00ab Little Villers. \u00bb He pays his house outright, something that was very rare at that time. Even more, for a man who is just 21 years old. He can pay cash, through inheritance received the death of his father. The place is pretty close to his mother. \u00ab Little Villers\u201d is about two kilometers from Remondiere where his mother lives. We have seen above that she has sold her portion of inheritance in Villers and seems to have kept his house in the Remondi\u00e8re. With little of LeMessier in Vascoeuil and St-Denis-le-Thiboult, and for the reasons mentioned above, there is a reasonable doubt that Jehan was the son of Jehan and Cardine Acoulons.<\/p>

Where Jehan was married? One clue leads me to believe he could marry in Perriers-sur-Andelle, town located at four kilometers south of Vascoeuil. This is also where we find the first known LeMessier. In a sale of land to Jacques Huneault on July 4, 1604 at Perriers-sur-Andelle, Jehan LeMessier said Blondelet is witness. What can he do there? 1604 is the year following the year of his marriage.<\/p>

I see the following scenario: Jehan has a child at the beginning of 1604, a few months later, the couple LeMessier decided to present him to the wife\u2019s parents. Forget the twentieth century and we believe that at this time to move four kilometers, we had to do it on foot or horseback. The work week was made of six long days, leaving little time for family gatherings. Jehan could wait a few weeks before presenting her child, so that he is less fragile to travel. Records about Perriers-sur-Andelle unfortunately found around 1604, I strongly suspect the father of David getting married at this point.<\/p>

Certainly he has had at least four children, Jacques, Martine, Isabeau (Elizabeth) and David. Two others could be his children. Indeed, an Ermelaus LeMessier married Suzanne Roussel on July 19, 1650 in St-Denis-le-Thiboult. This is the only Ermelaus LeMessier met in research. Who is he? If it is from St-Denis-le-Thiboult or Vascoeuil, it is almost certain that he is the brother of David. His birth is around 1622 or nineteen years after the marriage of the parents of David. However, it may have originated elsewhere and coming to St-Denis-le-Thiboult to marry a girl instead. There is another doubt about his origins. If he was the brother of David, why did he not inherited part of the house with David and Jacques? If he was a Blondelet, doubt would almost dissipated.<\/p>

At the same time, a Madeleine, Blondel widow, lives in St-Denis-le-Thiboult. Because of the limited information I have on these two people, I prefer to wait for more conclusive evidences before comment.<\/p>

As with a lot of information found in the archives, controversy may arise. A Jacques LeMercier died on December 6, 1658 in St-Denis-le-Thiboult. Research done in this place brings no LeMercier. Note that the children of David and Margaret Barc are sometimes identified as LeMercier. With this fact, this LeMercier would be a LeMessier.<\/p>

I digress about LeMercier. Their origin is located in Normandy, much further South. The spelling of the name was sometimes modified LeMessier especially in Perriers-sur-Andelle. Sometimes the confusion was made in Vascoeuil and St-Denis-le-Thiboult with our ancestors. Perriers-sur-Andelle is located in the department of Eure, in Evreux further research on LeMessier or LeMercier about this place, would possibly make us more clarification.<\/p>

An another information is at Ville-Marie. Jacques Messier, the uncle of Michel, borrowed 200 pounds from Charles Lemoyne in 1659 to return to France on business. Jacques has probably received a letter informing him of the death of his father. He was to return to France to settle the estate. The time required to send a letter to Jacques is quite normal. Boats leaving Dieppe late April or by May, they come to the end of June or July.<\/p>

All this suggests that Jacques would be the LeMercier David\u2019s father. To annoy researchers, a second error is made on his death. The father of David and Jacques has always been identified as Jehan LeMessier. Unfortunately, no documents regarding the estate of Jehan LeMessier were found. Only the sale of his house inherited by his children was found. It is a debate that will always be talked about. A reasonable doubt suggests to me that he is the father of David, mentioned in the records of St-Denis-le-Thiboult.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t

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Text comes from the volume of:<\/p>

Gilles Messier. Les Messier et leurs anc\u00eatres : 700 ans d’histoire.<\/span><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Jehan LeMessier III Sixi\u00e8me g\u00e9n\u00e9ration connue : Si l\u2019\u00e2ge mentionn\u00e9 au d\u00e9c\u00e8s de Jehan LeMessier est exact, le p\u00e8re de David na\u00eet environ 15 ans apr\u00e8s le mariage de ses […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"no-sidebar","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"full-width-container","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"disabled","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"disabled","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-1295","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/famillemessierfamily.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1295","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/famillemessierfamily.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/famillemessierfamily.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/famillemessierfamily.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/famillemessierfamily.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1295"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/famillemessierfamily.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1295\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1299,"href":"https:\/\/famillemessierfamily.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1295\/revisions\/1299"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/famillemessierfamily.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1295"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}